MacroTwits Transcript: Sunday June 14, 2009
- jamross
- June 15th, 2009
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StockTwits: Jun. 14 at 10:04 PM Thanks @GregorMacdonald and everyone for awesome hr of analysis.For those who dont know, Gregor’s excellnt blog here: http://bit.ly/15bwtS |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at 10:03 PM @mbusigin if no econ recoveryfed doesnt reduce balance sheetinstead it growsby definition fed always has infinite liquidity $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at 10:03 PM @anthonybrown Yes $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at 10:02 PM The MacroTwits stream is getting so full now, that I always read the Transcript provided each wk at @StockTwits blog. | Good read. $$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at 10:02 PM @GMRobertson Because there is no economic recovery, only a retracement in asset prices, wide money is still a black hole? $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at 10:02 PM @GregorMacdonald sure has the potential to shake out that way, but the fundamentals don’t support it yet $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at 10:02 PM US still the arbiter of the world, though it’s a shrinking, interdependent world. we must be strong or nothing works. $$ |
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anthonybrown: Jun. 14 at 10:02 PM @gregormacdonald We focus a lot on the $UNG fundamentals, but have they really degraded so badly that this move from $60 is justified? UNG |
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SynerjiGroup: Jun. 14 at 10:01 PM http://chart.ly/rdrenv $USD/JPY – Forex: last close – long USD/JPY + 69 Pips see chart attached- KD (intra-day trades) |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at 10:01 PM @pdenlinger And in the crudest form of mathematics, a democracy is half a mob + 1. $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at 10:00 PM @pdenlinger “Silent enim leges inter arma.” – Cicero(In the presence of arms, the laws are silent.) $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at 10:00 PM And @ppearlman said: “you know Gregor maybe oil will be the thing that takes us all the way to a big whoosh! and then crash.” $$ |
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Blacksoth: Jun. 14 at 10:00 PM $$ Thanks again for another Macrotwits Greg and to all the regular contributors as well. |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at 10:00 PM go here: http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/Current/z1.pdf read page 24status of usa households march 31/09 no green shoots $$ |
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RiverJoe: Jun. 14 at 10:00 PM FutureGen Alliance & DOE.. Carbon Capture $ Sequestration agreement update.http://bit.ly/19B2jp $$ |
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thestockbandit: Jun. 14 at9:59 PM A Look at the Major Indexes http://is.gd/11Si2 $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:59 PM @downtowntrader yoy rail traffic says not yethttp://bit.ly/189Xeb $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:58 PM 7 years ago this month, I had beer in an ancient Brooklyn Pub w @ppearlman and we talked about the US Debt Bubble for hours. Memorable. $$ |
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solupsist: Jun. 14 at9:57 PM RT @pipmaestro: $GBPJPY short at 161.21 Which chart are you watching? GBPJPY |
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downtowntrader: Jun. 14 at9:57 PM looking through charts and at first glance, rails look pretty good. $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:57 PM @Brodieville I agree FED had to intervene in this crisis. But the massive scale of debt/derivative mess is all on their head, imo. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:57 PM @GregorMacdonald do agree at crucial transition point noweverything politicsecon iranthe war oil all gonna be a wild summer $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:56 PM And that top could very well be sentiment driven. Sentiment is shaky I think, at best. Gas prices, mortgage rates, etc $$ |
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xiaoyi: Jun. 14 at9:56 PM RT @pdenlinger: When real crisis hits, nobody is a democracy $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:56 PM When real crisis hits, nobody is a democracy $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:55 PM bernanke lays out what he is doing now: http://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/SPEECHES/2002/20021108/default.htm “never again” $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM @GregorMacdonald I hope Howard wants to talk about this on stocktwits TV 2morrow $$ |
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downtowntrader: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM @IRON100 we may be in process of setting the boundaries for a very long primary consolidation with the march lows and wherever the top is $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM @GMRobertson Party has to relax and open up more, but in crisis its controls pay off $$ |
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JohnWaggoner: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM $$ Last TIC report says China has $768 bln in Treasuries, Japan $687 bln, oil exporters $192. |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM @IRON100 Seems like our good friend @Fullcarry was early to tip that damage would find its way into short end. $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM Can we agree that w.out the Fed interventions, we’d be living thru a greater depression, or is there room for debate here? $$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at9:54 PM @GregorMacdonald John Williams on CSPAN said that Greenspan was attempting keep afloat the economy decades after it fell off the cliff $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:53 PM @GregorMacdonald disagreeonly hero so far has been the Fedyour mistake their unusual candor as being dolts$$ |
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JohnWaggoner: Jun. 14 at9:53 PM $$ Coming Monday at 9: New TIC data from the Treasury.Mainly interesting for foreign holders of U.S. Treasuries. |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:52 PM @GregorMacdonald Lacker, Fisher & Moskow before them should have shut up, listening to them held back any chance of holding this off $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:52 PM @aiki14 Nothing like high interest safe money returns to cause a quick rout in the equity markets for sure. $$ |
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danielngsh: Jun. 14 at9:52 PM RT @IRON100 @pdenlinger For now China and US are joined at the hip, one makes stuff, the other eats it and world spins. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:52 PM @mbusigin fed can back out all the reserve build up in about 2 days $$ |
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zerobeta: Jun. 14 at9:52 PM @GregorMacdonald Do you see Bernanke being given another term.I know there was talk of Summers for the position. $$ |
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cornholelio: Jun. 14 at9:51 PM @GMRobertson Commercial Real Estate is in some serious trouble. Shopping Centers, Hotels, and even offices are hurting now. $$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at9:50 PM @GregorMacdonald What _could_ the Fed do? $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:50 PM @milktrader I say every one of them says short the long paper until stock plummet $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:50 PM Of course, the FED operates in a landscape where people like Krugman and Mankiw–who are nothing but food fighters–are respected. $$ |
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MDabbles: Jun. 14 at9:49 PM RT @traderclubtirol: Hong Kong: Hang Seng Index drops more than 200 Pts. in pre-market, following other weak markets in Asia $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:49 PM It would be one thing if the FED was impressive intellectually. But as a crew, they sounds like dolts in their writing and speeches. $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:49 PM Listening to brief audio interview w/ Ron Paul on auditing the Fed & history of past movements to do so http://bit.ly/14dAbj $$ |
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milktrader: Jun. 14 at9:49 PM Reflation, hyperinflation, China, Fed, US Treasuries. Three-dimensional poker or Gordian knot?$$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at9:48 PM @AndySwan Agreed – have you looked at max pain options theory?That’s probably why. $$ |
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traderclubtirol: Jun. 14 at9:48 PM Hong Kong: Hang Seng Index drops more than 200 Pts. in pre-market, following other weak markets in Asia $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:48 PM anyone reading this made some bucks in residential real estate last few months? how about commerical real estate $$ |
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trader1227: Jun. 14 at9:47 PM @AndySwan so what do you think about $FXP here? I know you were eyeing it around 20 bucks FXP |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:47 PM @GregorMacdonald Agreed, day late and dollar short on every move since Greenspan day 1. Bailouts bigger and closer in time each time $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:47 PM @mbusigin My concern is that the rate back-up not only continues, but runs right into next re-set cycle. Yes. I have very bad feeling. $$ |
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otcpicks: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM Read about our Stocks to Watch $EWRC $ASFX $HTDS $WNBD $CRXX $SFIO at http://www.otcpicks.com CRXX |
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angiezzzzz: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM @chamarsusie, nice trade on $BA BA |
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AndySwan: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM Option expiration week. May expiration we sold down pretty good. I expect the same this time around, but no reason to be aggressive yet. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM @IRON100 troubel china is now they own a massive inventory f every important metal and commodity – moght make itmy call they be crushed $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM @pdenlinger For now China and US are joined at the hip, one makes stuff, the other eats it and world spins. $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:46 PM @aiki14 I see this decade as massive FED policy failure. In addition I see virtually no intellectual heft from FED to support the record. $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:45 PM @IRON100 Unless landlord can find another reliable cop, the cop and his family are safe $$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at9:45 PM @GMRobertson Do you believe that countries who are worried about China’s growing power will soak up excess USD liquidity? Thinking Japan. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:45 PM @IRON100 think china very very clever and cornered commodities and drove prices to paint tape to “indicate” a chinese stim occuring: bs $$ |
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akoptiontrader: Jun. 14 at9:45 PM http://chart.ly/daea38 $TOL – second h&S since Dec. Last one = 28% move down from neckline. If this one gets close, tgt near $12.5 TOL |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:44 PM @IRON100 China is slum landlord; US is cop. They don’t like each other, but things are much worse w/o each other. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:44 PM @mojakus for life f me i cannot find one signficant bullish variable in this market butmost agressive speculative thoughts of forecast $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:44 PM the interest in Bing makes $goog, $msft & $yhoo look very interesting as the big guys position themselves. (twitter itself a hot topic) GOOG MSFT YHOO |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:44 PM @GregorMacdonald FED was never meant to have the power they have now, and they were never meant to support asset prices, yet they have $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:44 PM @GMRobertson The thing I am most concerned about is commodity price disconnect to dollar as China/Asia begins to drive growth. $$ |
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TheStockMentor: Jun. 14 at9:43 PM Weekly video has been posted. $SPX, $AAPL, $ICE, $TLT, and $TNH among others discussed. AAPL ICE SPX TLT TNH |
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mikestiller: Jun. 14 at9:43 PM How can we quantify US investor demand of non dollar denominated foreign assets on the USD? $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:43 PM @GregorMacdonald the damge can be seenhttp://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/Current/z1.pdfless than you think $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:43 PM @IRON100 What if cop goes to slum landlord and says: “You want to run neighborhood? Here are keys. Bye.” $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:42 PM @IRON100 i wont go far down this road as no one tends to believe listen – usa is world resevre for next centuryusa is sole way out $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:42 PM I’m not fading the FED. However, I am now taking view that permanent damage had been done and wonder what will happen to them. $$ |
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mojakus: Jun. 14 at9:42 PM meta-critique of green shoots is still fact that apart from PMI most components of LEI that are rising are market based (stocks, spreads) $$ |
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TrendTrading: Jun. 14 at9:42 PM Long candidates: $XRM, $SINA, and $ANEN. http://bit.ly/OGrz5 ANEN SINA XRM |
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mmeador: Jun. 14 at9:41 PM @PumPuiMonkey $eurusd we need some confirmation below 1.395 it may seem EURUSD |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:41 PM @hianthony the smart phone area really heating up- all the interest shld help all these stocks$rimm$aapl $palmimho AAPL PALM RIMM |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:41 PM @GregorMacdonald best reading on this is robert eisner’s stuff (recently deceased) of NW universitystufff he wrote 80s 90s $$ |
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milktrader: Jun. 14 at9:41 PM @GMRobertson how do traders fade the Fed? Going long US Treasuries? $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:40 PM @GregorMacdonald My big question is how quickly is dollar damaged by world demand pick up and refusal of foreigners to buy our debt. $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:40 PM On commercial/residential RE, does anyone have easy-to-read data on debt rollovers/resets for the next few years, broken down by month? $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:40 PM never ever ever fade the fed yet almost always in important times liek this folks do $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:39 PM @GMRobertson The chinese threaten to pull back on buying USt’s and the yield cranked down over the last 3 months $$ |
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hianthony: Jun. 14 at9:39 PM Amazon to Pay $51 Million to Toys R Us (#WSJ $AMZN) http://tr.im/outG AMZN |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:39 PM the best spot to make a ton of money in last 30 years in fixed income is when market decides to build a golden calf$$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:39 PM RT @GMRobertson: as long as Fed draws a breath by definition unlimited bid for us full faith or sponsored debt | need White Paper! $$ |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:38 PM While supply obviously has an effect on USTs it is overstated. There are much more important drivers like credit spds and inflation. $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:38 PM @GMRobertson What would be said in that phone call that wouldn’t crash our economy or be an act of war? $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:38 PM @GregorMacdonald not sticking with it i know emperical exp, evidence shows supply demand os 0 effect on us treas yields $$ |
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mbusigin: Jun. 14 at9:38 PM @GregorMacdonald Agree with more RE lossesHow can you not with all of the exotic mrtg resets coming? $$ |
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hianthony: Jun. 14 at9:38 PM BlackBerry maker Research In Motion may hint this week at strategy changes vs. Apple #iPhone & Palm Pre. $RIMM http://tr.im/out9 RIMM |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM @GregorMacdonaldi think these jobs will come back slowly but they’ll look different than “last time”. More green jobs promised too. $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM @IRON100 Yes. This story seems to suggest it’s the second death at that facility in a week.http://bit.ly/spAzV $$ |
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S3_jstanderfer: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM Is $GOOG afraid of $MSFT’s new Bing?Rumor has it Sergey Brin is personally involved in building “urgent upgrades”http://bit.ly/18W3FC GOOG MSFT |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM or Fed could fill any demand China may have for US treas over next year in one phone call $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM Fed could take 100% of all Chinese holdings of US Treasin one phone call and really not do much for or against Fed balance sheet$$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:37 PM @GMRobertson I’d like to hear you elaborate on that, I disagree completely $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:36 PM @GMRobertson So you are still sticking with your view that supply has zero effect on UST prices? $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:36 PM @GregorMacdonald as long as Fed draws a breathby definition unlimited bid for us full faith or sponsored debt $$ |
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VANTERHEYDEN: Jun. 14 at9:36 PM US Restaurants & Eateries suffering: http://bit.ly/WERdC ? – Sell $SBUX $$ |
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QuantTrader: Jun. 14 at9:36 PM RT @pkedrosky Thoughtful @carney piece on Why we’re headed for another financial disaster http://tinyurl.com/ksql7c $$ |
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my10000dollars: Jun. 14 at9:35 PM @BAbnkr oh yea? What are your projection on $QQQQ QQQQ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:35 PM @downtowntrader Any disappointment could stir a little fear in the retail investor and holders of mutual funds. Hard to say. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:35 PM @GregorMacdonaldabsolutely no sign of up trade flows – trust medemand or supply never has anything tous treasnever has $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:34 PM @Brodieville I really don’t see the Finance or Auto or Housing jobs coming back, FWIW. I think US econ as a shotgun hole in it. Big one. $$ |
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alienone: Jun. 14 at9:34 PM $BDI – Baltic Dry Index is still very low – even with the run up since March 06 and the Devil Bottom – China Stimulus – current run $$ LSE:BDI |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:34 PM @GregorMacdonald Why would USt’s get bid on global trade? Doesn’t sound like it would push flight to safety $$ |
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Blacksoth: Jun. 14 at9:34 PM $$ @GregorMacdonald It seems the US is in dire need of foreign currency inflows.What is best way for gov’t to do this? |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:33 PM @StockJockey ” the real driving force is the return of animal spirit” i agree to thatsickly bull $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:33 PM More on housing, from LA Times: A tale of two markets divided by the conforming loan limit http://bit.ly/15njWg $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:33 PM As I said abt 6 weeks ago: I stick with my trade flows view of USTs. If global trade kicks up, I actually feel USTs catch bid. Started? $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:33 PM @Fullcarry It’s a reaction though not a driver, and significant as an indicator for sure $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:33 PM people worried about too much US debt. this thing will really turn around only when cos. are making money again. & hiring! $$ |
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akoptiontrader: Jun. 14 at9:32 PM http://chart.ly/fqw39k $XHB – housing should move next week, look for brkdown of this wedge into continued down channel. XHB |
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StockJockey: Jun. 14 at9:32 PM One more time – mostly for @gmrobertson – Andy Xie: Tight Spot for Fed, Blind Spot for Investors http://bit.ly/ZyVnu $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:32 PM @GregorMacdonald Agree, if for no other reason than rel. size of assets involved. $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:31 PM @GregorMacdonald I agree, equities r following other classes, UST’s & the housing/mortgage mkts, no way we get out for real sans housing $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:31 PM @GMRobertson Maybe. But what it’s quantifiable that there is not enough capital to support supply of MBS and USTs, I go with vanilla S/D $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:31 PM Somewhat related to sovereign holdings of UST: any recent reports about the Italian confiscation of 124 bn in bonds at Swiss border? $$ |
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downtowntrader: Jun. 14 at9:31 PM @IRON100 it will be interesting. we were tilted to one extreme for so long, that a lot of this is simply a reversion $$ |
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METrades: Jun. 14 at9:30 PM Chemical plays $ARG $PX $APD all look interesting! Cup & Handle patterns??? APD ARG PX |
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richesinheaven: Jun. 14 at9:30 PM @RotorYacht I like $LEA right now more than $AXL, however both have been trading well. AXL LEA |
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elwalvador: Jun. 14 at9:30 PM In case you missed my weekend post $HEB may possibly be added to the Russell’s 3000 index http://tr.im/ol8w HEB |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:30 PM What if the cop needs conflicts to support his family at the slum landlord’s expense? $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:29 PM @IRON100 Interesting. The fall is when Marc Faber saw the rally extending to (possibly) last time I heard him speak on subject $$ |
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aiki14: Jun. 14 at9:29 PM @Fullcarry I don’t think that’s a significant driver, it’s all Sovereigns bailing (or threatening) and inflation risk in the long paper $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:29 PM I continue to believe the stock market is the wrong macro market to watch. To me it’s subordinate to housing and gov bonds, still. $$ |
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RotorYacht: Jun. 14 at9:29 PM Bought 11000 shares of $AXL @ 4.16 hop it goes up. Any thoughts out there? AXL |
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ElPasoTom: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM $$ ppl looking at old dow of 14000… wishful thinking, we’ll be lucky to see 10k in the next 18 months |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM @ryamada That is quite scary though with the death of that scientist.We live in interesting times indeed. $$ |
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Shag007: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM RT @downtowntrader: In March only 4% of stocks were trading above their 200 day ma. We are now at 70%. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM @GregorMacdonald which us why it is offered as reasonas easier;supply demand never has or had anything to do with us treas yield $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM @ryamada We got an upward revision to BEA US Savings rate to Q1. Also rate now at 620B (IIRC). Demand for UST yes. But shortfall still. $$ |
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downtowntrader: Jun. 14 at9:28 PM wordens T2108 (stocks over their 40 day ma) has been around 80% since April which is also pretty extreme. $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:27 PM @downtowntrader have we come “too far too fast” or do we still have about 50% to make up among the strongest stocks? POV is everything $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:27 PM @downtowntrader There is also extreme bullishness in AAII’s investor polls too. Could be interesting as we head into the fall. $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:27 PM @ryamada Re: work done by Setser and Swartz at CFR http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/ $$ |
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trobrock: Jun. 14 at9:26 PM Need some #cakephp help, using $this->Model->saveAll($data, array(‘fieldList’=>array(‘title’, ‘Profile.id’))); doesnt save the Profile.id DATA |
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ElPasoTom: Jun. 14 at9:26 PM $$ So I trade 4 myself & do sum spec 4 my soph clients, vry hard work 4 the results altho clients seem satisfied, new ones weekly |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:26 PM @GregorMacdonald A big part of the move in USTs could also be due to spread tightening.Junk Bond spreads have narrowed 8%. $$ |
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JosephDad: Jun. 14 at9:25 PM @ryamada air strike of iran is definitely non-trivial and absolutely couldn’t happen w/o US approval $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:25 PM @GregorMacdonald What’s the significance that fgn purchases have remained steady, while private household demand has increased? $$ |
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downtowntrader: Jun. 14 at9:25 PM In March only 4% of stocks were trading above their 200 day ma. We are now at 70%. $$ |
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ElPasoTom: Jun. 14 at9:25 PM $$ Clients only care about the “why” so much, we as an RIA still have to deliver results within risk tolerance. Bonds, div’s, and some spec |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:25 PM @pdenlinger @IRON100 While we’re playing the nuclear apocalypse card, leading Indian nuclear scientist killed:http://bit.ly/1l11DV $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:24 PM Just seems to me supply and demand is so much easier for UST market participants to see than inflation/deflation. (Reserve building etc) $$ |
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alienone: Jun. 14 at9:23 PM Regarding Iran – US is ordering new bunker busters – perhaps for Iran or North Korea to neutralize NBC – http://tinyurl.com/kt3gr3 $$ |
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alphatrends: Jun. 14 at9:23 PM subs- video of live analysis is posted $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:23 PM @GregorMacdonald ifparse out the obvious forward pricing of inflation cpi swapstipsso onimpossible to see demand supply impact $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:22 PM @pdenlinger I’m a strong advocate of all sorts of scenario-play at times like these. History shows events spiral. Ripples, Reactions. $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:22 PM China would have to buy USTs so the cop can feed his family $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:22 PM @pdenlinger and don’t forget Pakistan either, which has who knows what kind of element with the potential to use or export nukes. $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:21 PM @GMRobertson I still lean more towards supply and tech trading to explain UST market. I don’t see “smart brain” calling inflation yet. $$ |
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dvolatility: Jun. 14 at9:21 PM @pdenlinger lol $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:21 PM N Korea may choose to make their move just as Iran blows up. US would be overstretched $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:20 PM Mortgage rates explode upward (despite recent govt. efforts to subsidize home purchases) http://bit.ly/MTwOt $$ |
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JosephDad: Jun. 14 at9:20 PM @GregorMacdonald a new tone towards the palestinian question i should say. not iran $$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:19 PM Don’t forget N Korea. China has figured out that they have nutcase on their doorstep which has gone nuclear $$ |
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alienone: Jun. 14 at9:19 PM @QuantTrader – Or As GregorMacdonald stated – HyperSwan – Event – aka Black Swan – Taleb $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:19 PM @Brodieville It’s also likely that a domestic Iranian crisis has been very latent last 8 years. Urges have been ready for some time. $$ |
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ryamada: Jun. 14 at9:18 PM @GregorMacdonald @JosephDad Best analysis I’ve read says Israel will not likely strike unless it has tacit US approval/overflight rights. $$ |
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TriggerNews: Jun. 14 at9:18 PM @ppearlman Here’s the doomsday scenario of Israel vs. Iran if it plays out – will ignite the middle east.http://tinyurl.com/lmhk2w $$ |
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AppleInvestor: Jun. 14 at9:18 PM Financials/Banks have been a big part of the rally, but lately they’re a major culprit holding the S&P back $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:17 PM @GregorMacdonald if Israel gets involved, our hand is forced to take a stand, cards on table, de-stabilizing factors will multiply $$ |
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robpas: Jun. 14 at9:17 PM $$ Pretty strange, Iranian Election 2009 may = Tiananmen Square 1989 -> Ultimate Result Suppression #TCOT |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:16 PM @milktrader Nominal $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:16 PM @JosephDad Hyper dynamic situation: hard line crack-down could lead to global outcrry, new sancs. Or chaos could lead to Israel action. $$ |
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milktrader: Jun. 14 at9:15 PM @GMRobertson what is the N in NGDP? $$ |
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AppleInvestor: Jun. 14 at9:14 PM @QuantTrader I didn’t saying inflation, I said HYPERINFLATION $$ |
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JosephDad: Jun. 14 at9:14 PM @GregorMacdonald macro implications of the iranian elections on the docket tonight? $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:14 PM @QuantTrader Interesting u say that, as some will tell you that (price) deflation requires no cure & is beneficial http://bit.ly/2MSCY3 $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:14 PM @milktrader I’m not a big fan of being too precise with inflation, reflation and deflation. These always seem to unfold in reality as mix $$ |
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Brodieville: Jun. 14 at9:13 PM @GregorMacdonaldi think the worry about inflation is premature, but if investors make it front & central, it becomes a problem. $$ |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:13 PM At some point you get paid to put on a flattener.$$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:12 PM @GregorMacdonald what is interesting is 120% of change in 10 year note and in 2 year is infaltion risk premia $$ |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:12 PM @milktrader Most people think of reflation as NGDP growing.$$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:11 PM We should also note the almost textbook blow off selling action this week to 4.00% yield on the 10 Year Note–triggering rally in Note. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:11 PM @ppearlman think iran is absolutely keywhat is it is first question is it ukraine orange?is it sordid coup? major oil implications $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:11 PM @pdenlinger You can enclave online now too (I do it once a week myself, sometimes 2 a week). $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:10 PM @pdenlinger That is a good question. In the case of design folks, there is no reason except to enclave at presentation time. $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:10 PM Purely from a timing perspective, I would not place any bets on hyperinflation save small way OOM call option on HyperSwan event. $$ |
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FinanceTrends: Jun. 14 at9:10 PM @GregorMacdonald Speaking of rally in property, now reading a post on the “spring rally” in San Diego home prices http://bit.ly/L86MT $$ |
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ppearlman: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM @GregorMacdonald What are your thoughts on what is playing out in Iran presently relative to oil? $$ |
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Natvad: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM $$Mr.Mortgage’s latest report sees a 2nd wave of foreclosures:www.fieldcheckgroup.com/blog/ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM right with you on the herding gregorhedge funds had to make buckshad to drive this marketsuceeded this 1/4 $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM @GregorMacdonald I think that makes sense. AAII Bullishness indicator is as high as it was in June/July 2008 (cycle high then). $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM @esecfutures Gold behavior suggests to me tug of war currently even between inflation and deflation. imo we are in inflationary recession $$ |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:09 PM Substantial improvement in credit spreads this year suggest labor market should be improving by late summer.$$ |
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pdenlinger: Jun. 14 at9:08 PM With pervasive Internet/tools and mobile, why do non-retail service businesses need large offices for CRE? $$ |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:08 PM If I wrote essay on stock rally 2 themes would be 1. Reflation and paper currency dumping. 2 Herding/Habitual memory-driven behavior. $$ |
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Satanskeeper: Jun. 14 at9:08 PM How about royalty stocks such as $CRT CRT |
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alienone: Jun. 14 at9:08 PM @AppleInvestor – agree – Fed is printing funny money – Obama admin banking on BRIC to pick up the debt – US debt is frightening! $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:07 PM property RMBShas only abated the fury of the rate of decline cmbs is looking to talfat best a bottomno reflation $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:07 PM @GregorMacdonald I agree with that summary $$ |
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tradingpoints: Jun. 14 at9:07 PM 15 Jun Pivot Support Resistance Levels + Trading Signals Forex $EURUSD $EURJPY $USDJPY $AUDUSD $GBPUSD $USDCAD US$ Indx http://bit.ly/16IZdb AUDUSD EURJPY EURUSD GBPUSD USDCAD USDJPY |
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UrbaneGorilla: Jun. 14 at9:06 PM RT @TradingGoddess: @UrbaneGorilla Thanks! @TheDayTrader888 says 15% is short $BID. heh heh* Right mistyped.. 15.9% ** BID |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:06 PM think this whole green shoots is indication not of new healthbut hangover of spec interest from hedge funds – extreme speculation $$ |
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alienone: Jun. 14 at9:06 PM $$ Lot of money sitting on the side lines – consumer savings rate up, consumer consumption down – the consumer is 2/3rds of the GDP |
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AppleInvestor: Jun. 14 at9:06 PM I agree with Marc Faber and Peter Schiff, HYPERINFLATION is coming, and the Obama government is too stubborn/stupid to stop it $$ |
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ElPasoTom: Jun. 14 at9:06 PM $$ I have always been a buy and hold investor, but to make money I find myself becoming a trader |
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GregorMacdonald: Jun. 14 at9:05 PM @GMRobertson My view in 140 characters is that property–in this case equities–isexperiencing reflation. Zero to do w/earnings. $$ |
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IRON100: Jun. 14 at9:05 PM @GregorMacdonald Finding real distressed value in raw land currently (here, SC, NC, GA), commercial may have 1 more leg down. Res stable. $$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:05 PM cmbs has only narrow reed of TALF supporting it rental income and need for refi every bit as bleak as RMBS cira 2007 $$ |
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Fullcarry: Jun. 14 at9:05 PM @GregorMacdonald Better job prospects will counter rising rates as Real Estate flatlines.$$ |
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GMRobertson: Jun. 14 at9:03 PM i have neverin 30 years expereinced such a willfully blinded market $$ |
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AppleInvestor: Jun. 14 at9:03 PM During this consolidation, high lows, fewer and fewer leaders are participating, volumes are dropping to anemic levels $$ |
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StockTwits: Jun. 14 at8:56 PM MacroTwits Hour with master of all things real @GregorMacdonald starts in 5 minutes right here on StockTwits http://bit.ly/FfK1t |
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